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	<title>Comments on: The Antisocial Humanitarian deals with rumours</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Currion</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256276</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Currion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errr, I&#039;m not sure which part was personal?</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Meier</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256274</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Meier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is getting personal. Count me out. And enjoy blogging.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Currion</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256272</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Currion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick - The internet is a good example of a rumour mill, but I don&#039;t believe that this is qualifies as rumour. I quoted quite clearly from your original post, and you didn&#039;t provide any evidence to support the Madagascar example. In the wider context of crowdsourcing, my point is that in a rumour mill there is limited distinction between fact and rumour, and adding more fact does not lead to less rumour.

&quot;Unlike Paul, I do think that new ICTs can play a potentially important role compared to traditional press releases, and unlike Paul, I wonâ€™t dismiss this potential until much more work has been done on the subject.&quot;

In this post I was specifically responding to the example of Twitter, which was the example that you provided. I clearly think ICT plays an important role in public information (as my writing I think makes clear) but I think the proponents of Twitter vastly over-estimate what it actually does, and probably over-estimate what it can do.

My &quot;comprehensive&quot; (aha, cough cough, ahem, tugs at collar) response will post later today or tomorrow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick &#8211; The internet is a good example of a rumour mill, but I don&#8217;t believe that this is qualifies as rumour. I quoted quite clearly from your original post, and you didn&#8217;t provide any evidence to support the Madagascar example. In the wider context of crowdsourcing, my point is that in a rumour mill there is limited distinction between fact and rumour, and adding more fact does not lead to less rumour.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unlike Paul, I do think that new ICTs can play a potentially important role compared to traditional press releases, and unlike Paul, I wonâ€™t dismiss this potential until much more work has been done on the subject.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this post I was specifically responding to the example of Twitter, which was the example that you provided. I clearly think ICT plays an important role in public information (as my writing I think makes clear) but I think the proponents of Twitter vastly over-estimate what it actually does, and probably over-estimate what it can do.</p>
<p>My &#8220;comprehensive&#8221; (aha, cough cough, ahem, tugs at collar) response will post later today or tomorrow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Meier</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256271</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Meier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

Reading your comments, one would think you started spreading the following rumor: 

&quot;Patrick thinks that all rumors in humanitarian crises can be stopped and that rumors are really not that important anyway.&quot;

Wow. Clearly, blogs and comments do an equally good job as Jeff&#039;s rumor mill. Very interesting.

You may all have given up on trying to counter rumors, and of course that&#039;s entirely your prerogative, and of course, in many cases, the best you can do is run. Absolutely. And I know just how serious this is. I&#039;m talking about these issues with UNDP/Sudan every day. The latest story is a rumor about international humanitarian workers putting poison in the water of an IDP camp. The result was serious. Who ever said rumors were funny?

But I&#039;m simply not content to say &quot;alright, nothing we can do, nothing to be done.&quot; 

I&#039;m far more interested in re-doubling my study of rumors to better understand them, eg., as a dynamic network phenomenon (this should appeal to Paul), in order to try and get insights on how one prevents or mitigates this kind of tipping point. Patterns vs anti-patterns. 

Have I quelled the rumor about &quot;Patrick and rumors&quot;?

Unlike Paul, I do think that new ICTs can play a potentially important role compared to traditional press releases, and unlike Paul, I won&#039;t dismiss this potential until much more work has been done on the subject.

Cheers!
Patrick
I only have one question: what about the rest of my comprehensive answer to Paul&#039;s concerns about crowdsourcing in crisis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Reading your comments, one would think you started spreading the following rumor: </p>
<p>&#8220;Patrick thinks that all rumors in humanitarian crises can be stopped and that rumors are really not that important anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Clearly, blogs and comments do an equally good job as Jeff&#8217;s rumor mill. Very interesting.</p>
<p>You may all have given up on trying to counter rumors, and of course that&#8217;s entirely your prerogative, and of course, in many cases, the best you can do is run. Absolutely. And I know just how serious this is. I&#8217;m talking about these issues with UNDP/Sudan every day. The latest story is a rumor about international humanitarian workers putting poison in the water of an IDP camp. The result was serious. Who ever said rumors were funny?</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m simply not content to say &#8220;alright, nothing we can do, nothing to be done.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m far more interested in re-doubling my study of rumors to better understand them, eg., as a dynamic network phenomenon (this should appeal to Paul), in order to try and get insights on how one prevents or mitigates this kind of tipping point. Patterns vs anti-patterns. </p>
<p>Have I quelled the rumor about &#8220;Patrick and rumors&#8221;?</p>
<p>Unlike Paul, I do think that new ICTs can play a potentially important role compared to traditional press releases, and unlike Paul, I won&#8217;t dismiss this potential until much more work has been done on the subject.</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Patrick<br />
I only have one question: what about the rest of my comprehensive answer to Paul&#8217;s concerns about crowdsourcing in crisis?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Currion</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256257</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Currion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - absolutely. I&#039;m not arguing that &quot;crowdsourcing&quot; is a dead end itself, only that it must have limits and that those limits don&#039;t seem to be well-understood or widely-discussed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; absolutely. I&#8217;m not arguing that &#8220;crowdsourcing&#8221; is a dead end itself, only that it must have limits and that those limits don&#8217;t seem to be well-understood or widely-discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul-
Let us not forget OpenStreetMap which is a collection of crowdsourced data!
Cheers,
Jon</description>
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Let us not forget OpenStreetMap which is a collection of crowdsourced data!<br />
Cheers,<br />
Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/04/06/the-antisocial-humanitarian-deals-with-rumours/comment-page-1/#comment-256253</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power of rumors is amazing. I agree completely about working around them as best you can; I haven&#039;t really seen one stopped yet. They fade over time, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power of rumors is amazing. I agree completely about working around them as best you can; I haven&#8217;t really seen one stopped yet. They fade over time, I guess.</p>
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