Comments on: Correcting crowdsourcing in a crisis http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/ because information can save lives Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:15:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: On Crowdsourcing, with a big sigh at humanitarian.info http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-257213 On Crowdsourcing, with a big sigh at humanitarian.info Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:18:33 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-257213 [...] in Haiti have concerns about the role of crowdsourcing in humanitarian response, which is something I’ve written about previously. If you don’t want to read that whole blog post, the short version is this: I don’t [...] [...] in Haiti have concerns about the role of crowdsourcing in humanitarian response, which is something I’ve written about previously. If you don’t want to read that whole blog post, the short version is this: I don’t [...]

]]> By: The pros and cons of crowdsourcing election monitoring « ICT for Peacebuilding (ICT4Peace) http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256410 The pros and cons of crowdsourcing election monitoring « ICT for Peacebuilding (ICT4Peace) Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:18:16 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256410 [...] Swift River concept tackles this problem, that Paul Currion has succintly and accurately expressed here. [...] [...] Swift River concept tackles this problem, that Paul Currion has succintly and accurately expressed here. [...]

]]> By: Ushahidi: crowdsourcing in their own words at humanitarian.info http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256291 Ushahidi: crowdsourcing in their own words at humanitarian.info Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:34:09 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256291 [...] you’ve been reading this blog recently, you’ll know that I am singularly unconvinced by the utility of crowdsourcing in emergencies (at least, the sort of emergencies that I’ve [...] [...] you’ve been reading this blog recently, you’ll know that I am singularly unconvinced by the utility of crowdsourcing in emergencies (at least, the sort of emergencies that I’ve [...]

]]> By: The Antisocial Humanitarian deals with rumours at humanitarian.info http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256252 The Antisocial Humanitarian deals with rumours at humanitarian.info Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:25:36 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256252 [...] responded: Is there any evidence at all that the US Embassy’s Twitter feed had any impact at all on the [...] [...] responded: Is there any evidence at all that the US Embassy’s Twitter feed had any impact at all on the [...]

]]> By: Patrick Meier http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256244 Patrick Meier Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:44:14 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256244 Hi All, I've posted a very relevant post on "Peer Producing Human Rights: http://irevolution.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/peer-producing-human-rights/ @Paul, you may want to delve into the field of digital activism to find examples of how technology makes the specific difference that is claimed for it: http://www.digiactive.org Hi All, I’ve posted a very relevant post on “Peer Producing Human Rights:

http://irevolution.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/peer-producing-human-rights/

@Paul, you may want to delve into the field of digital activism to find examples of how technology makes the specific difference that is claimed for it:

http://www.digiactive.org

]]> By: G20 update; crowdsourced crisis information live « http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256241 G20 update; crowdsourced crisis information live « Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:01:28 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256241 [...] furious from all angles.  It is reminiscent of  many aspects of the ongoing discussion between Paul Currion and Patrick Meier, about the issues around crowdsourced crisis data.  Paul writes that, [...] [...] furious from all angles.  It is reminiscent of  many aspects of the ongoing discussion between Paul Currion and Patrick Meier, about the issues around crowdsourced crisis data.  Paul writes that, [...]

]]> By: Tom Longley http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256239 Tom Longley Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:01:11 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256239 @<a href="http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/#comment-256229" rel="nofollow">Paul</a> - re: Toni Comer Exactly: it was only when Comer was shown the CCTV clip that she went public and filed a complaint! Instant infamy. I think this case shows that we have to continue aspiring to have institutions tasked with verifying information and creating lawful consequences for breaches of the law. What happens when we stop believing this is ever possible, and that the crowdsourced info is an end in itself? What would Wikipedia be without a defamation law? @<a href="http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/#comment-256236" rel="nofollow">Sanjana</a> -- "The metrics of measuring impact, or put another way, building up the evidence base of ICTs actually “making the specific difference that is claimed for it†@Paul – re: Toni Comer

Exactly: it was only when Comer was shown the CCTV clip that she went public and filed a complaint! Instant infamy.

I think this case shows that we have to continue aspiring to have institutions tasked with verifying information and creating lawful consequences for breaches of the law. What happens when we stop believing this is ever possible, and that the crowdsourced info is an end in itself? What would Wikipedia be without a defamation law?

@Sanjana — “The metrics of measuring impact, or put another way, building up the evidence base of ICTs actually “making the specific difference that is claimed for itâ€

]]> By: Cutting through crowdsourcing « ICT for Peacebuilding (ICT4Peace) http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256238 Cutting through crowdsourcing « ICT for Peacebuilding (ICT4Peace) Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:58:29 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256238 [...] Please join the discussion here. [...] [...] Please join the discussion here. [...]

]]> By: Sanjana Hattotuwa http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256237 Sanjana Hattotuwa Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:34:57 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256237 @Paul - "What bothers me is whether a) “crowdsourcing†@Paul – “What bothers me is whether a) “crowdsourcingâ€

]]> By: Sanjana Hattotuwa http://www.humanitarian.info/2009/03/30/correcting-crowdsourcing-in-a-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-256236 Sanjana Hattotuwa Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:21:08 +0000 http://www.humanitarian.info/?p=485#comment-256236 @Tom Good idea. My significant challenge is that I am limited in what I can write about this publicly much as I would like to, because to more clearly delineate what works and does not at this juncture is to give needless ammunition to those intent on shutting down critical information generation and dissent. Catch 22? :-) I have in the past critiqued toolkits, for e.g. Tactical Technology Collective's Citizen Journalism Toolkit (http://ict4peace.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/tactical-technology-collective-citizen-journalism-toolkit-how-not-to-do-a-toolkit/) and five years ago, wrote in detail about our experience with ICTs in tsunami response (After the deluge : InfoShare's Response to the Tsunami - http://sanjanah.googlepages.com/thoughtsonictandpeacebuilding). Today, my work as you know involved pissing off a lot of parties. New media, ICTs and all that jazz helps, but it's not just boys with toys. These are, as you know, real lives, real issues where real compromises are needed with very unpleasant people to secure larger commitments towards human rights and humanitarian aid. These are never easy challenges, no prescriptive model works. This is why I agree with Paul - we can do a song and dance about new tech, but my own work is informed by a sober appreciation for the unmatched power of a repressive regime to harm, hate and kill. Take care, Sanjana @Tom Good idea. My significant challenge is that I am limited in what I can write about this publicly much as I would like to, because to more clearly delineate what works and does not at this juncture is to give needless ammunition to those intent on shutting down critical information generation and dissent.

Catch 22? :-)

I have in the past critiqued toolkits, for e.g. Tactical Technology Collective’s Citizen Journalism Toolkit (http://ict4peace.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/tactical-technology-collective-citizen-journalism-toolkit-how-not-to-do-a-toolkit/) and five years ago, wrote in detail about our experience with ICTs in tsunami response (After the deluge : InfoShare’s Response to the Tsunami – http://sanjanah.googlepages.com/thoughtsonictandpeacebuilding).

Today, my work as you know involved pissing off a lot of parties. New media, ICTs and all that jazz helps, but it’s not just boys with toys. These are, as you know, real lives, real issues where real compromises are needed with very unpleasant people to secure larger commitments towards human rights and humanitarian aid. These are never easy challenges, no prescriptive model works. This is why I agree with Paul – we can do a song and dance about new tech, but my own work is informed by a sober appreciation for the unmatched power of a repressive regime to harm, hate and kill.

Take care,

Sanjana

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